Sunday, December 29, 2013

Why do democrats try to present themselves as the 1800's Republican?

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Democrat S


You noticed it when someone reminds them that they lost the civil war or Abraham Lincoln belonged to the Republican Party.

I'm not saying the Republican party is great, I'm just noticing more Democrats trying to pretend that their was some kind of "flip flop" in parties... What's the deal?



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O.K., I'm going to go REAL SLOW and make some references that you obviously won't be able to follow up on, but just in case someone with some faculties reads this, I have to begin with noting that your interpretation of "history" or whatever you call that ridiculous stupidity you're spewing is so perverse as to be less than moronic.

First, neither the United States NOR the Confederate States was "purely" of one Party. Ca.1860, the Republican party, as abolitionist advocates pushing for change, became the "liberal" party of the times, upon the ruins of the old Whig Party. Oh. And you seem not to have noticed in your cocoon of vitriol and ignorance, but POLITICAL PARTIES DO NOT TAKE THE FIELD OR FIGHT IN WARS. From what crackpot did you get that silly impression?

Bear in mind, however, urban and northern Democrats have historically been more liberal, and it was the Democratic Party which led the progress in civil rights in the 1960's, which caused the ignorant, bigoted people in the South to "cross over" or "flip flop" and marry their moronic butts to the REPUBLICAN Party. What part of that are you too stupid to understand?

However, the Civil War--and this is what exposes your idiotic analysis--was not fought by parties. The Southern Democrats were at that time very conservative and stayed so until well into the 1960's. However, in your slobber-mouthed ignorance, you neglect to mention that there were Republicans very active in the South, who didn't agree with Lincoln, and the Democrats in the North were far more liberal. Look at Davis's cabinet and you'll find several Republicans/old school Whigs. Do you not read anything? Ditto with Lincoln's associates, many of whom were urban Democrats. You are horribly confused.

Right after Teddy Roosevelt's "progressive" and anti-trust period, the Republican Party shifted radically right. That had to do with their wealthy contributors and sources of graft! That is probably the "flip flop" to which you, in your apparently Limbaugh-induced scum bag delusion, seem to be trying to blame on someone, in your sniveling, stupid, cowardly way.

So, let me put it this way: Nobody is representing the Democratic Party as "1800's Republican"...nor are the right wing slime peddling their reactionary trash as "1860's Democratic".

Your logic and your facts are downright demented and erroneous.

Read some books before exposing your pathetic ignorance in public.

You're referring to a period of about fifty years, and you lack the framework in which to even BEGIN to define the terms.

And by the way, coward, "The Democrats" didn't lose the Civil War. Where do you get your lack of knowledge? Is there a school for slug witted subcretins where you are?

What a dolt!

What was life like as a teenager in the 70s?




sammy


I'm just curious, cause I really wish I lived in the 70s, it seemed so much easier!


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I went through the 1970's as a teenager. Actually it really depended on who you were & exactly where you lived. For a black teenager growing up in say ; the harlem section of manhattan ; life was brutal & dark. But if you were a white middle class teenager living in a middle class neighborhood ; life was actually pretty good. It was a different world back then. I myself grew up in white middle class Connecticut. Our parents were office workers, technicians, scientists, doctors, factory workers, teachers, etc. Our parents had lots of money. Hundreds of thousands of dollars in savings which our parents used to buy stocks & bonds & nice big houses & nice new cars. I'm talking about the 1973 - 1979 time frame. Our parents, most of whom got married in the late 1950's, were shaking loose the shackles of restraint & beginning to discover their "true self". Or so they thought. They started getting divorced & started doing the "disco thing" every nite after work. Or alot of our parents used to stay late at the office. And alot of our parents were into smoking grass too. But not as much as we did.The cost of living was alot cheaper back then than it is today. Alot of allowance money (i got $5 a day), alot of freedom to do our thing (wear levis jeans & concert shirts to school), hardly any responsibilities>> take out the trash & rake the leaves maybe>>> big deal. Some of us teenagers got discipline by parents, but most of us did not. We were very spoiled. We teenagers really took advantage of the situation. Our parents >>> should have been alot more strict with us. But they were not. I myself belonged to the "stoner crowd". In the late 1960's & very early 1970's it was called the "hippie crowd". After 1973 we were known as "stoners" or "heads". Alot of us stoners never completed high school. A pack of cigarettes was i think 20 Cents if i recall correctly. And a can of coca cola was 20 Cents. We had every convenience at our disposal growing up in middle class connecticut.There was absolutely no excuse for being bored. There was : the library, for the really mellow quiet ones.(us stoners were not quiet), there was : bowling alleys, soda shops, movie theaters, & the roller rink. The roller rink was the real hot hangout spot for alot of us stoners. And there was alot of woods back then for to hang out & get stoned. Alot of us teenagers (yes even some of us stoners) were given a car by our parents on our 16th birthday. I didn't get one, but some stoners in our town did. On the weekends sometimes we would pile into someones car and drive down to the coast & go hang out on long island sound. Back then you could find quiet spots & build a small bonfire. Or we used to go into the woods & hang out there & smoke grass & smoke hash until we dropped. Or we used to hang out at someones house all day from noon or so all the way until 11PM. We used to smoke tremendous amounts of grass. Im talking about smoking about 10 "Lids" or more every day between say 7 or 8 people. A Lid was a large bag of grass (about 1 ounce) that you bought for $10 dollars each. We used to smoke bricks of hash that one guy used to get from his older brother. We used to "cut out" (skip school) to start drinking bottles of southern comfort & smoking hash early in the moning. By the afternoon we started on the grass & usually winded up at someones house until maybe 9PM or 10 PM, etc. We would just keep smoking grass & keep opening up new bottles of southern comfort. On the weekends we used to take Acid & Magic Mushrooms and stay up all night. We had good music back then. Alot of what we listened to was 1960's music. We used to listen to : The Allman Brothers Band, The Outlaws, Cream, Deep Purple, Rare Earth, Jefferson Airplane, Donovan, Grand Funk Railroad, Neil Young w/Crazy Horse. Anytime some of us wanted to sleep over someones house, it usually wasn't too difficult. Alot of times the parents never even realized we were there if we stayed upstairs. About clothing : Every one of us Stoners, both male & female, had very long hair down past the shoulders. We all wore blue jeans & jean jackets>>either Levi's or Lee or Wrangler. And we always wore a cotton flannel shirt underneath the jean jacket in cold weather. And a bandanna or leather hat. We all had like 20 or 30 different concert t-shirts. Dating was very relaxed among us stoners in the 1970's. The girls would break up with their boyfriends every week & then date someone else & then next week break up again and go back to the first boyfriend, etc. etc. etc. No big deal. No one was serious. Very relaxed. A few people found Lasting Love, but for most of us, it was very relaxed & very open. No big deal. Our main primary focus was getting high. You gotta live for today. Because>>> tomorrow may never come.




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